Last Updated on July 21, 2023
Crawling Chaos History: Myths passing as Truth, revealed
Origins
The Crawling Chaos started in Ashington, Northumberland in the UK by two young men, soon to be Doomage Khult and Strangely Perfect who met at the local school years ago, sharing an interest in astronomy, music, gloomy science and horror fantasy novels and science itself. Keith Wear had a key role in design & encouragement in all things at this time.
Doomage acquired a BSc Physics Hons (First Class) whereas Strangely, in one of his habitual depressions jacked his university physics course in to work and get money.
Skills in music and electronics coupled with the punk explosion in 1976 led them commit to the creation of a proper band together.
By early 78 they’d set up music & studio equipment and developed techniques as the gear was made, writing compositions but without a clear idea of personnel requirements. A reasonably clear idea of styles and attitudes was in place.
At this time, though Keith was keen he wasn’t really good enough to be partners and his life was taking another route anyway. The name was chosen around 77 because it sounded good being a partial homage to H P Lovecraft and his Cthulhu Mythos and also because it had ambiguity since Strangely had not managed to read it all the way through despite several attempts because he was usually too drunk to finish it. The name stood out from band names of the time, it sounded dangerous and gloomy and for the two young men it had derived kudos. Thus started THE CRAWLING CHAOS although the definite article was usually dropped. It was supposed to be an actual creature of nightmares, but see here for more on that.
Mutual friends led them to end up dossing on the floor of Eddie Fenn after a drunken night at a Lurkers gig in Whitley Bay. The Attic Studios were quickly established in Eddie Fenn’s flat which included knocking a huge great hole through from one room to the next. n.b. The mutual friend (Jim from Durrim), appears as the title but not the subject of the song “Wee Jimmy”.
Attic Studios
A recording and live performance band followed with a core of Errol Dynamic on (Keith’s) drums until they were nicked, Doomage Khult on guitar, Strangely Perfect on keyboards and vocals. Engineering, mixage and production were handled by Strangely and Doomage. Two bass players joined and left in rapid succession, Steve Smooth and Dave Cook.
The first gig was at the Bridge Hotel in Newcastle, near the Keep, on the first floor inside the bay window. (The picture was taken by Strangely in 2002). At this time the band were gigging at least twice a week in places such as The Gosforth Hotel upstairs with Arthur 2-Stroke’s mob, The Noise Toys, or Spectro Art Workshop down Bell’s Court off Pilgrim Street, Newcastle.
The “sound” changed during this period due to the demands of gigging from the original avant-garde free-flowing jams to include more tightly worked new wave pieces. The “sets” very often were created on an ad-hoc basis dependant on the audience and how the band were feeling at the time. Numbers would be shouted out and with a few quick nods they’d be played. Sometime it’d be “JAM” and off we’d go.
Many of the coterie of helpers and followers of Crawling Chaos appeared at this time. In human relations, Crawling Chaos and their ilk used the pitmatic test. 1. Survivors of the ordeal ended up as mates. Everyone was free to do their own thing. The only penalty would be ridicule if you did something daft.
The Nothin’ Connection
Following an advert in the Newcastle Evening Chronicle for a bass player, with the tag line “we are sick of straight jerks jacking it in”, Holly joined the ensemble.
He and some school friends from Seaton Deleval, Paul Shields, Guzzle and Fen (Michael Fenwick) had a band called Nothin’ performing Holly’s music and co-written lyrics from Shieldsy.
The Nothin’ connection would continue, some tunes becoming part of The Crawling Chaos’s repertoire and the bands (and other connections) performing on the same bills.
Introduction to Factory
Strangely Perfect played grass hockey for a team called Northumbria (now re-named!). One co-player was the newsreader from the local commercial TV station, Tyne-Tees TV (soon to start the influential show, “The Tube”). His name was Rod Griffith. It turns out that he is source for the Chris Donald character, Roger Melly, the man on the telly. He was a lovely man. Truly.
Crawling Chaos had organised a show at the Rex Hotel in Whitley Bay. Strangely asked Rod, semi-tongue-in-cheek (as I never expected a positive response – SP), if he’d like to buy some tickets for himself and his TV chums…… He took a wodge (!), and bizarrely, about a dozen straight-looking TV types turned up to the gig, where they witnessed the normal show of the time which included Strangely stripping to his long-johns, Doomage alternately sneering at and showing off to everyone and Errol sweating a lot.
After the show, one particular guy said he really liked the performance, to phone his mate and to say that he, Tony Bulley, thought we were good and that his mate, Tony Wilson should give us a listen as he’d just started a record company called Factory Records. Strangely remembered that Bulley was the director on the infamous Sex Pistols/Grundy live interview (I nearly always read the credits! reference), and also knew of Wilson from his earlier time in Wales watching Wilson’s TV show in the Granada TV area showing artists like Iggy Pop, Joy Division and The Sex Pistols.
So I (SP) phoned Wilson up, and So It Goes, as Tony Wilson’s excellent show on TV was called at the time…
Factory Records
Demos were sent to Factory. Twat Hannett (Hannet link now points to Wayback Machine since the current page is full of shite gobbledegook) took an immediate dislike to The Crawling Chaos possibly because he had no control over the band apart from exerting negative forces from afar. An alternative view from Doomage is that he actually didn’t believe it was possible for us to get “Sex Machine” as good as it was and is… He exploded in the end.
Tony Wilson was impressed and decided that they’d want to see us so he said if we could get to Leigh for a open-air festival he’d organised, (he DID say all this, that’s what he was like), he’d put us on. So we did. (these previous links contain interesting info on the business practices of Factory/Tony that have also emerged in other areas – we should have guessed then… The comments by Chris Miller are especially salient). (see here also – added on 31/10/2007)
An early draft of the poster for the gig is now in a museum. This is it, right, with a bit more here from me (added 21/7/2021, SP).
We filled a coach from Target with our fans and went to Leigh. I think we were on just before OMD. This was the day that Billy Connolly drank a beer can of Doomage piss (he’d used it as a toilet) on the coach journey, remarking that the beer tasted warm… The day was a typical absolutely freezing bank holiday, audience minimal but reaction good despite the conditions.
The subsequent headline in a UK music paper was “Angst in East Lancs Wasteland” which was about right considering the situation on a disused dark grey pit heap (this is no criticism of the real organisers or the area; it’s just the way it was).
Tony’s blagging did get us on though as there were a heap of bands that didn’t pass Mrs Miller’s selection process! I’ve posted an article here about a visit to Tony Wilson’s house in Glossop.
After much delay due to Arty-Farty Wilson and the other creative media types having control over the sleeve design the single “Sex Machine” was released. The control was such that a highly expensive metal embossing master was needed to pump out the cardboard. This was reputed to be £700 alone at 1980 prices. The first run sold out in less than a fortnight pushing the record close to the top of the indie chart despite the embossing being flattened out when the records were stacked up at the warehouse.
They were so cash-strapped that another batch couldn’t be made until they got some Joy Division money in. So the £700 master was a complete and utter waste and the fast sales and heightened demand could not be capitalised on so all momentum was lost. Apparently, the design was the second one they had in mind (this was FAC 27, even though the catalogue numbers are out of sequence). Who knows how much the first one would’ve cost (presumably they chose the cheap one). It’s ironic (or maybe just karma), that Factory was brought down by the album cover cost for a New Order thing in 1992.
However, reigning in the critiscism, at least Tony Wilson plugged away to get it out, though. Maybe the hidden dark machinations of Rob Gretton started about then? It was a Tony Wilson riposte to one of his previous wheedlings that produced the “joke” at the Russell Club video of this has now been rmoved …
(In case the ‘joke is dead, use this link from the Wayback Machine) (added 29/11/11: iancurtis.org seems to be folding so this is a screenshot of the webpage)
During the long delay before record release, the distrust towards Factory started. Among the demos, was a politically motivated tune, penned by Strangely Perfect called “Mary Whitehouse” about the whiter than white whinger of the time by that name. This was written in 1977 while Strangely was working in a fibreglass factory in Welshpool, Powys.
The key guitar hook of the tune was identical to the Joy Division (who virtually co-habited with Factory at the time) guitar in the single “She’s Lost Control”. CC said JD had pinched it although now, since examining the time-lines, it looks like a case of parallel evolution and that Jeff and me were completely mistaken with the source of our ire.
Further mistrust followed when Factory “lost” some of the masters for the follow up LP; then the LP had to be re-mixed in an expensive Newcastle studio adding to costs which were taken into account when splitting the ‘profits’ as was normal Factory practice; then it was postponed; then it was finally put out on the graveyard Disque du Crepescule (twilight or semi-darkness in French) label (aka Factory Benelux).
They mucked this up as well, changing the carefully crafted anagram-title of “Gas Chair Clown” to “The Gas Chair”.
Wacky cover though! Needless to say, the cash generated was piss-poor and all momentum to the band was lost due to the back room machinations of key Factory personnel.
The Pits Studio
Errol Dynamic left to live in Manchester during this period but before “Gas Chair Clown” was released. Another contact with a local band called “Danger in Paradise” led to a mutual agreement to start Foetus Products in the basement of Baldy Chester’s flat in Tynemouth. (more)
Rough booths were constructed and when finances permitted, another room was anechoic-ally kitted out with loads of headache inducing thixofix glue keeping it together, lagged and double glazed drum/vocals booth and wired in mike and headphone circuits.
The studio was up to four-track tape by now at 15″ per second.with 2 track master at 30″ per second.
This period saw the recording of lots of material which would appear later on “Gas Chair Clown”, “Homunculus Equinox”, “The Big C” and “The Last Pose” LPs as well as “The Blonde Etheopian”(sic) EP featuring lots of tracks by the old “Nothin'” ensemble and performed mainly by those members.
The “Gas Chair Clown” was released on the Factory Benelux offshoot. It contained material recorded at the Pits and at the Attic. The wacky cover was by The Belgian artist, Denyse Willem, who has done loads of stuff in a similar vein. I like it. n.b. dead link since 2018, use the Wayback Machine.
When some royalties came in, all the members of Foetus Products (and a few liggers) had a celebration meal cooked on Chester’s manky old gas stove. It was roast chicken. It was “The First Foetus Feast”! And jolly nice it was too.
Only the EP and “Homunculus Equinox” were released by Foetus Products during “The Pits” occupation. “The Last Pose” was produced mainly by Chester as a vehicle for some of his tunes from DIP days. It was released after Crawling Chaos had left the premises, dividing equipment and severing Chester from any Foetus Products business.
Later, Chester managed to acquire some original master tapes – which is the output re-issued on CD by the LTM label. He did not contact me regarding the CD production or royalties for these issues or anything since 1985, save to complain later to me about mentioning these facts on these and other web pages. Further on-line releases are his doings, mainly sourced from “The Last Pose”; The door to The Pits never opens when I’ve knocked though the lights are on; I am told to phone when I’m in the area but am turned down just before arriving; The email, in this digitally connected age, “doesn’t work”; What am I to think? What would you think?
Bebside Hall Studio
Following the general decline in relations and then fall-out with Chester, premises were obtained in a wing of Bebside Hall, Northumberland. (To be strictly accurate, although the address was 1 Bebside Hall, it was actually part of the outbuildings for the Old Hall, long demolished). A certain local notoriety had obviously evolved when a postcard arrived from local Newcastle band Freak Electric (Lorna and Ian, along with Moyly and George) addressed simply to “The Noisy House, Bebside“. (n.b. Later, Bebside Hall was demolished and is now a block of apartments. The ruins feature on the cover of Spookhouse.)
During this period all the later output was recorded and the last vinyl material published for public consumption. This was “The Big C” and “Waqqaz” (although various other compilations were published by the remaining and alternate members this was the last vinyl output). “The Big C” contained material recorded at the Pits and Bebside Hall. The output was much more professional than previous relying on new tighter scripts rather than reworked old recordings and edits of jam sessions for avant-garde effect. Crawling Chaos continued to confound the critics.
Strangely Perfect, deluding himself with his excessive lifestyle, left the band, at least until his head cleared as it was killing him. He went to France for six months with his soon-to-be 1st wife working casually (although he always had a core belief that his work with Crawling Chaos was incomplete).
For five years Crawling Chaos continued with varying levels of activity and membership around a core of Doomage and Holly. This later period is still relatively poorly documented. Live shows in Europe and elsewhere continued and a video was produced (now found). The release of creative work in tape format, similar to the previous “shouting at dozy twats” and Homunculus Equinox but in compilation form, continued, mainly through EE Tapes. Tuva was one of the nom de chanson at this time for Crawling Chaos who had by now a very floating membership. Other local bands used the studios and mentions of this and recordings can sometimes be found on the net.
No further vinyl releases were made following Strangely’s departure.
“Waqqaz” was the last album containing Strangely’s contributions. It took a lot of effort to produce, and we all really believe it is contains works of creativity that the world will recognize eventually. He is very proud of Crawling Chaos and is honoured to have worked with all of the different members of the band.
Later Info
Doomage occasionally spoke to Strangely since those times, finally expressing his initial feelings completely here. He unfortunately and surprisingly died in 2010 following several years of optimistic letter writing ‘tween him and me, Strangely, using his partner Jackie’s email address.
Holly continued working at Bebside until the landlord kicked him oot. After a period working in Holland, he returned to the North-East of England and records and occasionally entertains in various projects; The Symptoms , 400 Vulcans and others. Strangely and Holly have been in contact since July 2007 and Holly has been a good source for archival material and correcting errors therein.
A good selection of Holly’s work is on his much-improved website, http://hol-music.co.uk/
Mr Excess, after bizarrely returning to our roots, making videos and helping others in the community, finally (and sadly for me) reached the Carlsberg induced oblivion he craved in December 2009.
Errol Dynamic (The Honourable Ted) probably won’t speak to anyone again. He’s happy with his own stuff, having previously worked with Mark Riley and the Creepers.
Haircut hung himself, which was weird – and very sad.
The information about band members following Strangely’s departure has been provided by Holly & Doomage and can be found here.
Strangely Perfect, back in the UK in 86, started landscape gardening but stopped that when it became too dangerous, then ran a delivery business and news agency with his wife, got his Class One HGV, spun wheels for some years while raising a family and then created custom SQL and VBA code for a foreign-owned business leeching from the NHS and its employees until he saw the light. He now lives… …
He now manages this website and all band communications.
Recent Releases
Spookhouse was finally released in 2012. Thanks go to Erik in Belgium.
n.b. Jeff wanted it called the pitmatic “Spookhoose” but Holly insisted it was called Spookhouse and since Jeff was by now dead and I figure only as a creative trigger on a track or so, Spookhouse it is. It’s a cracking piece of plastic to own. The artwork is from shots of the time.
To enlarge on a previous mention, the value of who-did-what only becomes an issue when rights and status are purloined from their natural home. ‘Twas ever thus in music and art. The two CD issues of earlier tapes and discs were released in several ways, depending on the author of the story, each author having their own particular gripe.
For myself, Strangely Perfect, I was not consulted on this by anyone. My gripes are post story and the dastardly deeds are done – except some fucker has raked up the ashes.
Downloadable art is another issue though.
- Sex Machine and Berlin were (according to Jeff in an email to me which I still have) stolen to big up the Gas Chair Clown CD by Baldy Chester and Mr Nice. Jeff said to me when I found out how this corruption of truth occurred,
“When I heard that The Gas Chair was about to be re-released on LTM, naturally I became curious. Some elementary detective work led me on the trail of Anth Chester, so I contacted him and he filled me in on the details – James Nice, a former employee of Factory Benelux had found half of the master tapes of said album and had asked for Anth’s permission to rip off one side of an original vinyl for a re-issue. I understand that he was given a £250 advance for this, which I stress he split with Holly 50-50 and in the process acquired the master tape of Homunculus Equinox.So far so good I thought – after all Anth and Holly did play their parts in those recordings which nobody can deny. What I didn’t know about at that time were the “bonus” tracks, and I was a bit peeved about the inclusion of Sex Machine and Berlin of which you know neither of them had anything to do with. But by the time I found that out, it was a Done Deal in Production and I childishly decided to keep my opinionated trap shut. Be clear though, I’m not dissing Holly…” – Jeff Crowe
– this info is not hidden and has always been on this site. Jeff’s ‘bit peeved’ is the irony we had as schoolmates. Translate it as fucking fuming as he said to me in a later phone call, plus other not-niceties.
- Art started by Baldy Chester was unceremoniously bunged as the first two tracks of the Homunculus Equinox CD to big up Chester’s ego, or if not, why?… However, my keyboard, Jeff’s guitar and our sound effects and production turn what were two dismal tracks into something a bit more special.
- A similar situation exists with the on-line-only release of the cul-de-sac that was called Crawling Chaos/Danger in Paradise, though not by me (SP). True, as Jeff again said to me in an email, both Jeff and I played and added to Baldy Chester’s creations (Jeff forgot to mention the others I guess), but it was not ever Crawling Chaos.
- To build on the above as Jeff’s comment says just above, Baldy, though not playing live, did artistic contributions on some of the first two Crawling Chaos albums’ content. A multitude of recordings were done in The Pits Studio that overlapped in time with various personnel, but it was always understood that the performance artists amalgamated into separate entities from the public domain releases of materiel, yet at the same time those on each recording would “receive their cut”, as it’s said… Maybe this post explains more about why this line is here and why the end has changed a bit…?
n.b. There is a large amount of unreleased material of jams, experiments, tests and versions.
At some point in the near future as tempus fugit, I will release all the emails I’ve had between Jeff and myself in a readable form. For me(sp), personally, it was to my eternal relief that Jeff and I communicated after many years gap, but also, it’s to my everlasting chagrin that we never again met face to face.
For further information, please use the contact form on this website here.
Much Later Info
The recent death of Jackie, Jeff’s partner and through whose systems I had to communicate with the self-confessed Luddite that he was in these matters, is very sad. There have been a few happenings like this this past year. As the end of my sixth decade approaches it makes one think. As Jeff’s mam said to me this morning (29/5/2015),
Live life to the full because you never know what life will bring tomorrow. Those two went early, but they had happy lives together.
She then went on to ask about my ageing mam, which is what we do. Nichiren, a 13th century Japanese guy concludes in, “The Problem to Be Pondered Night and Day” – a brilliant read actually, from top to bottom…
You must not spend your lives in vain and regret it for ten thousand years to come.
…which is what Jeff’s mam said, in a different way. George Harrison said something similar.
Because the text is by me, Strangely Perfect, by definition, the information is skewed to my viewpoint using my memories of my personal experiences. But this transcript is open to continuous edit because nothing in this universe is constant and new information and opinions continuously surface like matter spontaneously arises from the quantum soup. I’ve included all of this as it’s been presented to me. Whatever has been written is probably an order of magnitude short. Or not.
– Strangely Perfect.
Note 1 – pitmatic
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Main image: “The Fall of Numenor,” an allusion to Atlantis made by J.R.R. Tolkien well after HP Lovecraft did his stuff.
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16 Responses
Hi Rees, hope you’re well. Oblivion overrated, running video company instead. Carlsberg is piss anyway. You’d be a little surprised by where I live now, as I was. GC
well, i suppose i enjoyed reading that. the Fen and Holly photo’s took me back 30+ years, all very interesting in its way . .well I’m going to bed cos I’m feeling tired now , Shieldsy comes in to my mind every so often.his humor was great, he used to call his neighbors by some great names. fag as Lil. mother Teresa. etc, once he delivered daffodils to fag ash Lil singing to her as she done the dishes watching him through the kitchen window with myself in attendance and his mother watching from the bus stop on the way to the bingo in Delaval!. .great stuff . .(he would have been 15 at the time) i guess Seghill was never going to fulfill anything for the him .
Interestin story about Sex Machine’s flattened cover. Just looked at mine – bought when it were released, I’ll add, an it’s as flat as a witch’s tit.
Nice.
you are such a great band. one more peso will probably be played at my funeral. you’re the soundtrack of my youth and will stay in my vains forever. a respectful thank you from me to all of you….
Ha Ha – cheers Joop. I’ve recently come to the conclusion that the whistling I added at the end of that track has it’s genesis in Kites by Simon Dupree and the Big Sound… you may not hear it, but I can, in my head.
🙂
p.s. I still haven’t grown up, properly.
only read your reply a week ago. just ordered the simon dupree 7″ via discogs. lovely song; i’ll play it to my wife when i get it. been playing a lot of your songs lately, think i’ll never grow up properly myself, but that’s a great thing to cherish !!!
Better late than never, eh?
Growing up means you’re old. Never grow up – yeah!
Hi, Strangely. Great website! Fascinating to read the history of the band and fill in the gaps (or at least some of them). I was a big fan of your music back in the 1980s and for a while corresponded via the Foetus mail address – not knowing that by then the original and main creative force had departed. In May 1987 I paid a flying visit to Bebside Hall and met Holly and Jeff. They were wonderful. They took me to Billy Baldy’s club and put me up overnight at Foetus HQ. They explained that you had gone, probably never to return, but at that stage they were still hoping to keep the CC going as a performing and recording entity. I still enjoy listening to all the records and cassettes even now 30 years later. You were a peculiarly modest genius. Great to know you and Holly are still around, but very sad to hear about Jeff. All you people get off my back! Cheers, Sean.
Cheers Sean. I’ll take time to ruminate on the modest genius bit of it all…
Following some travelling and a bit of rumination, Sean, I’ve written a post which includes some extra stuff of our earlier modest genius days
It all ties up (in my head at least) with lots of stuff; art, the meaning of art, the perils of an artist, part-time jobs, time and space and contemporaneousness.
It’s here: https://strangelyperfect.tv/18160/clark-ashton-smith-the-crawling-chaos-artistry/
Great piece on Ashton-Smith and links to Lovecraft, thanks. Also great out-take of “Get Off My Back”, which I hadn’t noticed before. So many hidden corners of this website still yet for me to discover.
I’ve been going back through all my old CC recordings. Some great stuff on ‘cunt’ and ‘In Search of B.O.M.’, but just so many questions – and it’s now all a long time ago. Any chance of a few more lyrics, please? ‘Oh Blasé’, ‘Circulation Waltz’, ‘1078-1082’, ‘Yoni Suchon’, ‘disierta membra’? Cheers, Sean.
Now yer askin’! If Paul sung them they’d be on his pieces of paper and he’s dead so it’ll take careful listening! I’ll see what I can do (I seem to spend a lot of time chopping wood, eating and shopping for food these days 😉 )
Even better, if you have the time from the mundanities of life, have a good listen and write them out – I need all the help I can get. Yes. Seriously.
FYI, I’ve just been laboriously amending some text and piecing together a posting for someone that is the Iain Duncan Smith of music, I kid ye not. I cannot say who that is though – sort of Voldermort-ish. It’s taking hours.
But apart from that, please ask questions. It may bring forth stuff from the depths of the subconscious, or Pegswood. And this may release a small cascade of subsequent details from elsewhere, perhaps.
Hi Rees, just discovered this site and remembering visits to Bebside with the Freaks (Electric) also gigs New Hartley (Blond Ethepian Dance Troupe) Gosforth Assembly rooms Silver Moon Nenthead and others. Your music and sense of fun is a great tattoo in/on the brain. Got some old pics if you’re interested. P.
Loving the tattoo metaphore… cheers Pete
Unbelievable, while playing my crawling chaos records i found this website with the incredible history of the band and that tale of the emboised 7″.
I couldn’t believe that i hadn’t seen it when i bought it 37 years ago! My specimen has a sculpture that almost pops out of the sleeve, incredible. It’s a real
discovery.